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posted by [personal profile] noveldevice at 01:05pm on 31/07/2009 under , ,
Via [livejournal.com profile] nellorat, a great post about stereotypes and fat.

I really recommend reading it.

I'd also like to add to her discussion that, if you object to fat-demonising on the part of others, you are instantly construed as being fat--or do I mean constructed?--and your opinion doesn't count because you're obviously fat. After all, only a fatty would object to fat-demonising. If you engage in fat-demonising and you are fat, your opinion clearly matters more because you are fat. (Cf. "My black friend uses the n-word"; "My gay friend says fag"; I think we can safely add "My fat friend makes fun of Rush Limbaugh" to this.)

It's a really brutal catch-22.

I used to be irritated when fat allies said "Even though I'm skinny" to preface their remarks. Then I realised why they were doing it, when I said "I don't think it's okay to make fun of Rush Limbaugh for being fat. Especially when there are about a million things about him that are both mockable and to the point, like his hypocrisy." and someone told me that he didn't care if I was fat, but... Uh, wow. I am torn: do I disavow fatness when I tell people to shut up so as to make myself seem more authoritative and less self-interested or defensive, or do I not mention it because it doesn't matter and be discounted because I'm clearly personally involved in the issue and defensive about my fatness?

I don't have a good answer for this.

ETA: and the flip side of stereotyping fat women...let's have a bit less of the "skinny bitch" rhetoric eh? Also, quoting Guy Ritchie on how Madonna was in bed to support how awesome you are about accepting women who aren't sticks? Just makes you look like a twit, okay?
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Or, I Am Neither a Lever Nor a Place to Stand.

So here's a thing:

Our culture encourages sex crimes against women. It makes excuses for men who perpetrate them, it blames the victim rather than the rapist, it encourages habits of male-female interaction that are unhealthy for everyone involved. It also encourages the victimisation of men by upholding behavioural norms that are profoundly gendered, such that men who step outside these gender norms are rendered feminised and thus subject to violence just as women are.

It's pretty widely acknowledged that our culture is broken and has to be fixed. But something I see over and over again when men, rather than women, talk about our culture being fixed, is that women have to do it. The responsibility, the onus, is on women to "stop living in fear". The thing is, though, that half the world are not OCD freaks with a laundry list of phobias who touch lampposts and flick switches constantly like some kind of female Monk. Women who watch their backs, lock their doors, carry pepper spray, etc etc, don't do it because they have some kind of bizarre disorder. They do it because they have formulated coping mechanisms for living in a world that has been represented to them--and not without reason--as being fundamentally unsafe for female habitation. It's not ideal, but it's the best option a lot of women have: to live as though at any moment they might be under attack.

Our culture perpetuates this by telling women that, if they are attacked, they must have done something wrong, because good girls, safe girls, wouldn't have to worry. They'd do the Right Things™ and somehow magically the Wrong Sort of Boy would know that and go after a Bad Girl Who Deserves It.1 It's a catch-22, because simply being assaulted makes you a Bad Girl. There's no escape, culturally.

The problem with telling women that it's their responsibility to fix things, leaving aside the idea that this is a deeply gendered view endemic in our culture, is that this instruction basically guarantees the perpetuation of the status quo, because this is something that women can't fix.

Let's look at an example I was given recently:

A man is walking down a street at night. There is a woman walking ahead of him. In order to make her feel safe, he slows down and gives her plenty of space. He may cross the street so she'll feel like he's not following her.

Why, the person I was talking to asked me, can't he catch up to her and say hi? Why can't he walk at a normal speed on the side of the street he always would? Shouldn't the burden be on her to feel secure at night on a dark street simply because violent stranger rapes are such a tiny fraction of overall rapes?

And I gave him the numbers: there's a 1 in 6 chance that woman (1 in 4 if she's a college student) has already been raped. She fears because she knows what she fears. Even if that woman is in the majority and has never been raped, she's almost certainly been harassed, catcalled, maybe groped by strangers. She may have been fondled on the bus, or stalked by an ex-boyfriend. She has a reasonable fear, despite the low rate of violent stranger rapes, that anyone on the street could be a member of that admittedly small group, and she has no way of knowing what would set him off. And the numbers, I think, speak for themselves. Yes, violent stranger rapes are a minority. But they are a minority over which women feel no sense of control.2

And so we get to the basic problem with telling women to fix the culture by acting as though it's already fixed: the price for being wrong is quite simply too high for most women to even contemplate. Women who behave as though the world is fundamentally an okay place to be a woman sometimes pay with their lives. And we all know it.

So what's the solution? I wish I knew. What I do know is that the solution will be slow in coming, because it is a fundamental sickness of our culture, not a single monolithic problem. You cannot simply find the rape tree and chop it down. It's an invasive vine. You can gain the illusion of control over it by yanking the starts when you see them, but it propagates underground, in the deepest fabric of our culture and in every individual's unconscious, and only concerted, determined, and long-term efforts can eradicate it. There's a word: eradication.

You cannot just stop it, you have to yank it out by the roots, and that takes time. It may take a fundamental restructuring of our culture. I see that restructuring starting to happen already; the things that women twenty years older than me took for granted are horrifying to people a little younger than me. We talk about rape now, and about rape as something other than violent stranger rape; I see that as a positive step. You can't address a problem until it's okay to talk about it--and we're getting there. The very fact that we can have a discussion on LJ in which people talk about their experiences and their anger in posts that aren't f-locked--in which women and men feel okay about exposing their status as survivors of rape--says to me that the situation is starting to shift to a place from which we can make real differences. Try not to be too angry that it's not happening quickly enough. This was never going to happen quickly. The key is to make the juggernaut so unstoppable that when culture throws itself under the wheels, culture is crushed as the juggernaut rumbles on.



1. Cf. e.g., the rules for horror movies: you only survive if you're a virgin.

2. The sense of control that women feel over acquaintance rape is illusory at best (ask twenty women if they've been raped; ask the five that say yes if they thought that the man who raped them was a danger before the rape was already in progress--I think some of you will be surprised) but it is there. We have a sense that we "can tell" if a guy is going to be That Guy. Even though a significant fraction of the time we're wrong.
Mood:: impassioned
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posted by [personal profile] noveldevice at 06:33pm on 22/09/2008 under ,
An open letter to [livejournal.com profile] snobahr, [livejournal.com profile] averypenguin, and anyone else who habitually engages in this behavior.

STOP POSTING BIRTH, INJURY AND DEATH ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW.

Stop it.

It's inappropriate. It's disgustingly, repulsively insensitive to the feelings of the people whose right it is to convey the information. And frequently, because you don't even KNOW THE PEOPLE INVOLVED, you get stuff WRONG. And that is the most disgusting, repulsive thing of all. It's not enough that you rush to "scoop" other people regarding things you have no right to announce, no. You have to be the absolute first to post, which means that you are frequently WRONG.

Here's a thing: my partner was, once upon a time, a fairly important person in the SCA, and he has friends in a lot of kingdoms, and those friends will want to know that he has died, when he dies. And if I see that you, [livejournal.com profile] snobahr, have posted something about his death, I'm going to show up on your doorstep and personally bitchslap you into the twenty-second century.

And I'm not going to tell you his SCA name. So just know that anytime you post a death notice for someone you don't know personally, from now until the end of time, it could herald my arrival on your doorstep. And my arm will already be cocked.

So just be warned.
Mood:: furious
location: EVERYWHERE
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Now, people have said, concerning the Open Source Boob Project, that it was non-sexual and empowering, that no one was stigmatized for not participating, and that it was wonderful and the heavens opened up and spat forth flying unicorns pooping rainbows and in the Congo people put down their arms and, in some cases, other people's arms, and a shipment of rice arrived to the starving in Mali, and it was so awesome they decided to do it again except with buttons so that people could ignore them and ask you anyway if you minded having your breasts fondled by random strangers, or if you were instead a frigid prude. (Yes, this is not an entirely fair summation; deal.)

And I read about it and was pretty upset. It took me a couple of tries to get through the original, unamended LJ entry about it, because I kept imagining my nineteen-year-old self in that hallway and feeling sick. And, because I am an observant participant of this culture, and have been a participant in subcultures similar to fandom, I could pretty confidently project the arc of this little "project" through the subculture, and its spread to allied subcultures, and then I felt really sick, because part of my problem with the "project" is that it makes explicit and manifest some pretty sexist and misogynist threads that already run through these subcultures, and through the dominant culture that I live in. It's supposed to challenge ideas about touch between consenting adults...by letting men touch women's breasts. The window dressing of women also touching women, and women touching men's asses, which are not comparable to breasts when it comes to stranger-groping, aside (and you had better believe there are a hell of a lot of women that I don't want touching my breasts), this is just the same old shit. It doesn't even have new justifications or rationalizations--it's the same crap that was going on when I was nineteen: let us touch you, aren't you proud of your body, are you a prude, are you frigid?

If you want to change the paradigm, the first thing you have to do is stop reinforcing the old one, and in that sense, nothing that involves men groping women's breasts is going to do anything except end up with more women being groped in an only marginally consensual fashion.

And yeah, I have baggage about this--I freely admit it. But I'm willing to bet I'm not the only one, and there are going to keep on being young women who grow up to be older women with terrible memories of this kind of shit if we, as a culture, as subcultures, don't cut it the fuck out.

You can experience comforting touch from me without putting your hands on my breasts, you know. I can hold your hand, or you can touch my arm, or we can, if you're not a total skeeze, hug. Maybe I can braid your hair or rub your scalp or give you a little neckrub, if you ask and I'm in the mood. Maybe we can sit side by side on a bench with our thighs touching and watch the clouds. If you want non-sexual touch, try wanting to hang out with me, and then maybe try wanting to touch me somewhere that doesn't turn you--or me--on.

Because that's the thing, of course. I'm not a cipher--I too have feelings, and if I am accustomed to finding a hand on my breast exciting, there's nothing wrong with that, and if I want to only have on my breast the hands of people that I feel comfortable responding sexually to, there's also nothing wrong with that. I'm not inappropriately sexualizing my breasts, I am acknowledging that I often find someone touching my breasts to be arousing, and that as a result, I want to be picky about who gets to touch them. I am also acknowledging that, for many people who are attracted to women, touching a woman's breasts is arousing, and while I can't stop you from having your own little Moment across the room as you mentally undress me, I can stop you from imposing your unwanted and unwelcome Moment on me and my anatomy.

And what you should acknowledge, before you ask, is that this question you're about to ask is, of itself, culturally loaded, intrusive, and open to misunderstanding--or even perfect understanding, for some of the people asking. Some people are likely to be offended, and it doesn't mean that they are sex-negative, that they are ashamed of their bodies, that they are prudish or unenlightened, frigid, virgins, lesbians. It doesn't mean that they're offended because you're not rich enough or cute enough or because they think that you are a tool of the patriarchy. It's entirely possible that they just think you're a tool. And it's entirely possible that they're right.
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